When a grown man came to me as an elder with tears in his eye because he lied to his boss when asked if his break was over. He said "no" when he was over by 5 minutes. He asked if Jehoobie would forgive him. I knew it was a crutch for weak minded individuals then.
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local, strange jw thinking
by lancelink ini was reading today that the last star wars movie will be playing next week.
doing a little searching, i found that there have been 12 movies in the saga total, ( box office, total (12 films): $9.323 billion.)..
it got me thinking about when the empire strikes back came out, it was the second movie ( 1980).
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What Are Your Predictions for 2020 and Beyond?
by The Bethelite in2020 the society will continue to have financial problems with massive pay outs because of their lack of protecting their young people from a religion that harbors thousands of pedophiles.
thus this and other religions that has an 1800's mentality will continue to lose their young people.
with the religion's lies easily found on the internet the smart ones will continue to leave in droves.
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Wasanelder Once
Silly Bethelite, It wasn't Paul McCarthy's words, it was Jam Lemon.
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The Holidays Are No Big Deal Anymore
by minimus inyou used to hear christmas music blaring on every radio station.
not anymore.
people used to jam the roadways and malls to do their christmas shopping and now it’s no big deal.
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Wasanelder Once
Not celebrating Xmas since I was 8, it was something everyone else did. Most people I know who did celebrate have outgrown it. Kids move on, many people have died that kept the tradition and religion has taken to supporting the "me first" screw everyone else tradition. Yep, online shopping has become the "Catalogue" way to shop and people are more interested in going shopping without the risk of being shot. (of course that's mostly sarcasm but there is a bit of that in people's minds. People think in terms of exit strategies from stores et. all). When I was 8 xmas was a blast. Now? Meh.
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Totally-NOT-Holiday parties
by neat blue dog inanybody else in congregations that have parties in october for kids to dress in costumes and pick pumpkins, parties in november with turkey, fixings and candles, and parties in december with red and green colors and baking similar looking snow-themed desserts?
(not to mention the spiffy new wardrobes for easter.
i mean memorial season.
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Wasanelder Once
Do you fault them for trying to enjoy life? Obviously they are making an attempt at making Jehoobie happy while still giving their kids a reason to enjoy the season. Hypocritical? Of course. No I never saw anyone in my old congregations go any farther than a turkey (cheaper in the season) dinner in Nov. I have heard of some who had a "Gift" day and that seemed a bit suspect. Religion is so stupid.
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Do You Think “Higher Education “Is All That??
by minimus inas jehovah’s witnesses, we were regularly told how awful a college education is.
i’m no longer associated with the religion but i am not so pro university.
it’s not because i think you are better off without a degree.
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I graduated in 2007. In the US. Two years of community college and three years at university. In California at that, the bastion of liberals. Never felt lefty pressure. I was an ex JW returning to school in my forties. Perhaps I ignored the politics of the day then. I'd like to think I was aware. Sure there were left leaning student groups and protests but no more than before. The staff were very careful to hide their bias. There were just as many "Young Republicans" at the same time.
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Do You Think “Higher Education “Is All That??
by minimus inas jehovah’s witnesses, we were regularly told how awful a college education is.
i’m no longer associated with the religion but i am not so pro university.
it’s not because i think you are better off without a degree.
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I'm curious, did you attend a university Min?
I did and told one professor in front of the class that what he said was bullshit. Got an A in the class. I guess its not always the case that you fail. Did someone fail you for speaking out? It was never my experience even though one instructor said I was unusual because "No offense but the JW's he had taught weren't very intellectual nor intellectually honest." He was a prince, insert sarcasm.
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Going in different directions
by dothemath inwas visiting with some old friends a while ago, and got to hear some interesting updates about their congregation.. there is a new family moved in, from the ukraine, and are very zealous.
when giving their experience (they're quite new in the "truth") they feel strongly that the religion has changed their life.. they were ready to divorce, but from studying the bible, etc., they are now a happy family.. its really a yearbook type example that make a lot witnesses feel vindicated.. on the other extreme, in the same congregation, a teenager just graduating (an elders son) just up and left and moved in with a "worldly" family.
he told his parents he doesn't believe it's the truth, and actually believes in evolution.. he was being "encouraged" to get baptized, but he managed to avoid that.
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Wasanelder Once
In the U.S. you are not legally an adult till 18. Leaving at 17 still could be his choice but they are legally libel for any of his misdeeds. Not enough info. I wish him well.
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Why does he stay in?
by Probablyshouldrun ini was seeing a jw man for about a year and a half until l broke it off with him last week.
we met on a dating site.
he shouldn’t have been on there, of course, but he was lonely.
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Wasanelder Once
Misery loves company.
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PROVE IT!
by minimus inthat’s my attitude toward anyone making an assertion.
i’m sick of people saying such and such is true simply because we are saying it.
i would think that those here would agree because we all have been jehovah’s witnesses.
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Wasanelder Once
There certainly are many babies who whine when their assertions are rebuffed. Unfortunately in the era of Donald's "Fake news" tirades, all assertions, even those with evidence, are dismissed out of hand. We have entered the time of "Alternate facts" and evidence when presented is disregarded. As the witch from the Wizard of Oz said in the movie as she melted, "What a world!". Sorry I don't know exactly the time and frame she says it in.
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are the witnesses now considered "clergy " ?
by lancelink inyears ago when i was a jw, one of their cornerstone teachings was that they were nothing like babylon the great.
i remember being taught that the witnesses not using any type of clergy class distinction was proof that they had the right religion.. well, recently we had this article in the local paper, and an elder who was no doubt the presiding overseer tried to use the clergy class excuse to get out of answering questions regarding a child abuse case.
here is the statement that really got to me.
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Wasanelder Once
Yep I believe so. The elders are using the clergy and penitent privilege to try to cover their lack of informing on the perpetrators. It isn't working any longer because they broke any such relationship of trust or confidentiality by calling Bethel and discussing cases.